6 days ago ‘captnesti’ posted a question to [Yahoo Answers] stating:
i have a ps2 and to be honest i want something that is considered a “next-gen” consle. I don’t know what to buy, and i don’t want to spend $700 on it.
Now here there where a lot of replies, ‘NYY 27 IN 08!!!‘ got best answer with this post. Now I happened to miss this, but thought what the hell… my counter points are in RED, I want to show you the gamers how easy it is to snow someone over with buzzwords.
first off i want to let you know that i am a PS360 owner meaning that i own both systems, so i have experienced both systems and you are better off getting a ps3 because…
– ps3 has a built-in blu-ray player
Good if you like Sony movies and extremely slow seek times.
-ps3 supports 1.3 HDMI which has rich colors and xbox supports 1.2 HDMI
Released August 8, 2005.
Added support for One Bit Audio, used on Super Audio CDs, up to 8 channels.
Availability of HDMI Type A connector for PC sources.
Ability for PC sources to use native sRGB color-space while retaining the option to support the YCbCr color space.
Requirement for HDMI 1.2 and later displays to support low-voltage sources.
Released June 22, 2006.
Increases single-link bandwidth to 340 MHz (10.2 Gbit/s)
Optionally supports Deep Color with 30-bit, 36-bit, and 48-bit xvYCC, sRGB, or YCbCr compared to 24-bit sRGB or YCbCr in previous HDMI versions.
Incorporates automatic audio syncing (Audio video sync) capability.
Optionally supports output of Dolby TrueHD and DTS-HD Master Audio streams for external decoding by AV receivers.
TrueHD and DTS-HD are lossless audio codec formats used on Blu-ray Discs and HD DVDs.
If the disc player can decode these streams into uncompressed audio, then HDMI 1.3 is not necessary, as all versions of HDMI can transport uncompressed audio. Cable Categories 1 and 2 defined. Category 1 cable is tested up to 74.25 MHz while Category 2 cable is tested up to 340 MHz.
Availability of a new Type C mini-connector for portable devices.
Pretty much HDMI 1.3 adds more colors then you eye can see, and some audio features that aren’t needed if your player can already decode the audio stream. So it’s kind of a toss up on if you need HDMI 1.3 VS HDMI 1.2. It would totally depend on the 1000’s of dollars you have set up in your audio/visual equipment. [SOURCE: WIKIPEDIA]
– ps3 has much more and better exclusives, most of them cant go to xbox 360 because it cant handle that many data(DVD- 8.5gb, blu-ray 50gb)
Ok.. *blink* What? What “more and better” exclusives? a hand full a games perhaps. But better? nothing seen so far. A few trailers.. a lot of promised, but no ‘killer app’ and NOT ONE PS3 game made the top 20 games sold in 2007. (hey, 2008’s data isn’t out yet)
– because of the blu-ray’s huge space, ps3 will have WAY better graphics than 360
For rendered movies perhaps. However, the PS3 doesn’t have the 360’s throughput on the poly’s either. You push higher rex textures and you slow the frame rates. It’s that simple. Besides.. GRAPHICS DO NOT MAKE THE GAME.
– online is free for ps3 not like 360
But for how long? Servers and bandwidth cost money. You’ve got to re-coup the costs somewhere. Besides, only the GOLD version of Xbox Live costs money. the Silver version is free.
– you can browse the internet on ps3, no such thing for xbox 360
Well there ARE ways to do it on a 360, but the real question is why would you want to? You buy a PS3 for two reasons. A) it’s a cheap Blu-ray player and you’ve got that new 60″ HD-TV and one hell of an audio system, and need something to justify the purchase. B) to play games.
why would you want to sit on your sofa and search the net when you can do it SO much easier and faster with a mouse, keyboard and IE/Firefox?
– the graphics for multi platform games are starting to look better on ps3
Name one. Seriously, name one game that looks better on the PS3 then it does on the 360. Even BioShock won’t have enhanced graphics for the new PS3 version. Though yeah, they will look better then what’s on the Wii.
– developers stated that they will start using ps3 as the lead platform and port ps3 games to xbox
Yeah, when the PS3 first game out. Now developers are finding the Xbox SO much easier to program for. Therefore you have two problems with the PS3 from a developers/publishers point of view. Do you create a game on a platform that’s easier to program for. Therefor giving you a faster turn around time, and for huge user base? or develop a game for a small user base, that costs more money to develop for because of the hardware?
just from a straight business point of view you develop for the system that’ll give you the most profit. Right now, that’s the 360. Or the Wii for you casual game developers.
– playstation home is coming out this fall, its a virtual community where you can hang out with friends and customize your own apartment which xbox doesnt have(FREE)
Fall.. so that’s the newest due date? and how long as home been in development? better yet, how many times has it been pushed back? and for what? an over glorified MySpace. I’m not 12. I don’t need a ‘virtual community’ if I want that I’ve got WoW or EQ2 to play in. Home.. really.. who cares?
– ps3 is a true HD console. xbox 360 upscale games to 1080p and ps3 DISPLAY games up to 1080p
Not True. the 360 DOES have native 1080p, and at least 3 games support it. Though yes, the PS3 has more supported titles. Point is the 360 can have native 1080p support. [SOURCE: MakeYouGoHmm.com]
– built in Wi-Fi
Point. You need an extra piece of equipment to make the 360 wireless. But then again, for me at least, it’s a moot point. I like my equipment wired. Less energy floating though the air, and all and all tends to be a bit faster and easier to set up.
– xbox 360: 33% hardware failure ps3: .2% hardware failure(see the decimal? less than 1%!)
Again, point.. But that’s also if you’ve bought the older version of the system.. new system boxes don’t have that RRoD problem and Sony doesn’t give any one model long enough on the market to even see if it will fail. Even the 80 gig is due to be replaced by a 120 gig model.
– ps3 plays almost all ps1/ps2 games except the 40gb, xbox 360 can only play certain titles mostly the “greatest hits”
Except for those games that need the rumble pack or have extra controllers (like Guitar Hero), and the NEW 80 gig model will have the BC removed completely, and the list for 360 BC list [is rather large].
– dualshock 3 is now available
Finally. its only like 3 years later.
– xbox 360 already has been maxed out to its potential with gears of war. ps3 has not been maxed out yet- look at uncharted drakes fortune, better graphics than gears and its only 30% of ps3’s potential
O.o and where do you get those numbers? I wouldn’t say uncharted looks bad by any means, but better then Gears? I wouldn’t do that far. There’s a lot more ‘going on’ on the screen in gears at any one time then I’ve seen in uncharted.
– you can upgrade your harddrive without voiding warranties with any 2.5 HDD, which xbox cant because you have to buy a xbox HDD
(they actually have the step by step on how to upgrade it on playstation.com)
Now there you have a point. No you can’t upgrade the HD. However, you’re missing one little detail. the 20 gig drive for the Xbox is plenty of room if you keep up with deleting the old crap off it. With the PS3 you NEED the bigger space, because you need to INSTALL your games before you can play them.. Why? because of the all mighty Blu-ray seek times are so freaking slow that the game needs to put parts of itself on the hard drive.
those are the ones that i know right off my mind but there are much more reason than this
You forgot to add: ‘Because I’m really a fanboy’ (sorry, you all know I’ve been wanting to say it.. LOL)
Now I want you to do me a favor, list all the reasons why xbox is better than ps3. I PROMISE you that nobody will get at least 5 reasons
Why should I? Didn’t I just blow out 90% of your argument on why the PS3 is better then the Xbox?
if you get ps3, look at this, you will be able to play metal gear solid 4, haze, killzone 2, resistance 2(60 player online!!!!), final fantasy XIII, motorstorm 2, little big planet, better version of GTA IV, god of war 3, uncharted drake’s fortune, uncharted 2, heavenly sword, ratchet and clank, SOCOM: confrontation, gran turismo 5, ETC- http://news.filefront.com/ps3-exclusives…
Metal Gear Solid 4: Which you need to pay for some online options, and besides having one hell of a release, there’s not much noise on the net about it. I find that interesting.
Haze: One word.. SUCK and there’s a NUMBER of articles out there to back me up on that one.
Killzone 2: Didn’t I already play this game? Oh yeah, it’s called Team Fortress.
Resistance 2: Could be interesting, but a killer app?
Final fantasy XIII: No longer exclusive.
Motorstorm 2: LIke the first one was really that much to write home about.
Little big planet: Right now it’s pure hype, and not much ‘news’ about it. Looks good though.
GTA IV: better version: Most of the side by side movies have proven the 360 looks a little better.
God of war 3: No where near complete yet.
Uncharted: Drake’s fortune: Good game, so there’s one out of the list.
Uncharted 2: Well duh. Naughty Dog eats out of Sony’s hand.
Heavenly Sword: Oh that forgettable,‘We spent a whole processor to make her hair move like crap.’ Game?
Ratchet and Clank: another Good one.
SOCOM: confrontation: hopefully better then the first…
Gran turismo 5: not due until like 2010.
Prices as of today:
ps3- 80gb: $499 with metal gear solid 4
40gb: $399 with spiderman 3 blu-ray
xbox 360(premium)- $349
if you want the accessories that ps3 comes with, that would add up to over 700 dollars, so that means ps3 is cheaper
like what.. Wireless? just plug it in. So the Xbox is cheaper.
xbox 360 pricing to match ps3’s features:
$50- XBL subscription(only for 1 YEAR) pay $50 every year (Only if you want to play with your friends online, and I’ve seen it as cheap as $39)
$100- wi-fi adaptor (Don’t need it if you just plug it in)
$200- HD-DVD drive add-on (why? HD-DVD is dead, and you can find it on E-bay for like $20)
$20- rechargeable battery kit (or a $10 store bought one)
all comes out to $720/$820- add $50 each year you subscribe for XBL
spiderman 3 blu-ray movie/MGS4
rechargeable battery- built in the controller
wi-fi built in
blu-ray player(better than HD-DVD) built in
all comes out to $399/$499, oh my,look at that, its the same price as before
Talk about some skewed numbers..
Now to REALLY answer the question. Look at the games you want to play. Both online and offline and then see how many of those games are on what console. If more are on the PS3, then buy a PS3. If more on the Xbox, then buy a 360 and don’t forget about the Wii.
THAT’S how GAMERS pick a console. They look at the games. Not the hardware.